Originally Posted by quickmonty

Generalization based on current values of society. There was a time when family and community were placed ahead of self interest. Many immigrants came to the US and sacrificed their own needs to make things better for their children (family). Many ethnic groups banned together to further the cause of their community. Unfortunately we have entered the ME era, where personal gain often outweighs any other consideration.

In regards to the topic, and a lot of responses to the topic, this is very obvious.

Originally Posted by Issac

Might have a higer chance of getting a reward this way lol.

Originally Posted by StueyG

Life is hard - stab someone else in the back! That makes it better! Steal from the poor because I'm poor! One of the problems today is that crap. And people have been "working hard just to pay off fee's" for a lot longer than just 30 years ago. That's a really silly thing to say. 30 years ago my dad had two jobs, my mom worked, we all helped - and we still barely got by. I grew up in the ghetto with gangs and such too. And yet even THEN there was a lot more people that took the time to help each other get by. Sure there were and always have been the few freeloaders and thieves, but I have to agree it is worse now.

Originally Posted by DreamRunner

I don't think you understood where I was coming from. Students back then 30 years ago didn't have to pay for HECS fee at all! HECS basicly meaning uni fee. Uni was FREE! Students today have to hold a job, pay for uni, study and hope they pass and then pay for the cost of living, which costs more than before. Petrol(Gas) is a hell of lot more, I have to pay $1.20 per litre of petrol.

And then thoes people who lived during back in that time, calls my generation the ME generation for not living up to their back in their day idealism.

Originally Posted by DreamRunner

I don't think you understood where I was coming from. Students back then 30 years ago didn't have to pay for HECS fee at all! HECS basicly meaning uni fee. Uni was FREE! Students today have to hold a job, pay for uni, study and hope they pass and then pay for the cost of living, which costs more than before. Petrol(Gas) is a hell of lot more, I have to pay $1.20 per litre of petrol.

And then thoes people who lived during back in that time, calls my generation the ME generation for not living up to their back in their day idealism.

Originally Posted by Holly Herro

Now thinking about it and just receiving something of very great value to me, I'd definietly turn it in like I did today.

Found one of them new iPod touches worth 800 something dollars in Aus, I didn't get any reward except the person coming upto me and giving me high five Was wicked. I <3 high fives.

Originally Posted by DreamRunner

iphone? My mobile is the nokia 2600. its pretty old. But, since you know... took my post way out of context. I said in cash. I actually used capitalized letters for responses like yours, to bad didn't work huh? But I didn't say stolen or anything. I actually meant if you are carrying that much around, wondering around on a daily basis.

I know people who don't have a bank account and people get paid CIH, but they do not carry $500 in their wallets! No, a lot of people who don't have a bank accounts store most of their money in a place where it is safe. But it really comes to me as a surprise that the people who are doing charity somehow get that much cash in a day. But then again I have also said.




Congratulations on your dad I guess. I'm really going to try and care, but I do wonder who "it" is. However a friend of mine did get an 21 inch LCD monitor to his door and obviously, he didn't order it. Good karma sometimes comes. But, for your "warning" I will wait until it happens, but so far being careful and street smart has keep me going pretty good. And yes, I have been mugged too.

Although, you really didn't get the purpose of my post that you responded too. Here, I would point it out to you. "Who is trolling? This is a really random comment." And guess what I did?

Originally Posted by Drakken Breathes Fire

There are also student loans now which were nnon existant 30 years ago.
On the plus side it makes the lives of students who can't afford university normally a lot easier, on the downside people dont want to work THAT hard to pay off their loans these days either. 30 years ago we had to work to get the money in the first place, today we fill out a form and say 'You'll see your money back.. anywhere from 6 months to 6 years after I graduate. KTHX BAI.'

Life is so friggin' hard now. I agree.

In fact, now we get to graduate highschool at age 17 and enter right into either university or college and either FALL into a high paying job, or drop out and take something else in college//uni lather rinse repeat until satisfied on someone elses dollar as long as the moneys good.

Minimum wage now has also more than doubled//tripled since then to match the 'higher cost of living'?

Life really *IS* friggin' rough, wow, where's the exit.

30 Years ago nobody would've thought TWICE about pinching a handicapped persons' money. 30 years ago they werent even allowed to work in most places, if memory serves me correctly, they were even considering LAWS to prevent them from breeding. Today, those laws haven't been passed because it was inhumane, they are allowed to work along side everyone else as EQUALS, but along with that comes the equal mistreatment because some punk assed bratty white kid wants to 'reward' himself for finding his wallet when he loses it like anyone else does. I'm sure the handicapped person would do the same..? I highly doubt it. I also doubt he's one of those people who roughs up young children on halloween to get their candy.

This is life?

What it all boils down to has already been stated, restated, and explained over and over again in this thread. We aren't part of the solution, therefore we must be part of the problem.

Instead of bickering about who's a more humane person, why don't we shut off our computers and do some community service? I've been doing it most of my life, I havent seen *MY* reward yet, but I'm also not waiting. But, again, this just adds to the 'holier than thou' bullsh*t which isn't proving a damned thing.

Nah, humanitarianism begins anonymously in an internet messageboard.
Clearly, we all need to share with each other our moral fibre. We have enough to go around.

We've *persevered* in todays 'rough' times.
(Honestly, most of you are the reason I keep a knife in my pocket and my wallet on a chain.)



That's all it takes.
Afterall, we're all in the same fight, arent we?
For some people that's not enough of a reward. We gotta pinch their cash too and hand back the empty wallet without a shred of regret.
We have to pay for the bells and whistles somehow. 'It's their fault' for losing it. Another hard lesson in this 'hard life.'

Originally Posted by StueyG

Stealing someone's cash from a wallet is cheap, low down and disgusting no matter WHAT the excuse. It disgusts me how everyone now days just kicks someone when they are down. "You lost that much money, it's your fault for being an idiot and carrying cash!" There is NOTHING right about that. Period. My brother is handicapped. His wallet fell out of this pocket. He does not have credit and had cash on him which was stolen, and the wallet returned - nevermind the fact that he does not make that much money and has bills to pay and such - and honestly I do not care who it is - it is still not your cash, you are stealing, period. There is also tons of reasons to have a lot of cash on your person. Does not make them stupid - it's called bills, cashing checks, and loads of other reasons.

(and everyone going on and on about carrying credit - all these people that throw around credit now days are way more retarded - everyone has credit debt - wow GG)

Originally Posted by StueyG

So? Did you not read the post? People have to work their butts off to pay for things before you were even thought of - and because you have to pay for uni you have the right to steal and rip others down in your pursuit to go to uni. My dad 30 years ago had to work 60 hours a week to pay for school and then study as well. >>>30 years ago<<< Things are not that much different. There is a lot more people now that actually get to go to Uni than there used to be.

Some people cannot even afford uni. 30 years ago or now. Some people live on the streets. Some people do not have anything but what is on their backs. Have you ever gone to help at a soup kitchen? Have you gone to help those that do not have anything? It is not idealism, it is being a decent person. It saddens me to see how low people will go just to get ahead.

I wish people could see what they did when they flat out steal the money from someone and see what they are going through. Maybe people would think twice if they saw the family that needed the money to pay for their heat to get through the winter. Sure, odds are that is not the case, but who cares. It could be and everyone that says they would keep the cash obviously does not care. All they are thinking is "zomg 20 bucks!" or whatever they can get their hands on. In the end no matter the case you are still a thief. No one cared when my unemployed handicapped brother lost his wallet which had his cash in it to pay for rent. Everyone here has been saying it was "his fault" for actually trying to bring the money to pay for something after going to the doctors office. He was pissed, but found a job and is making some money now. He moved on and helps others out too even when he does not have loads himself.

Originally Posted by Drakken Breathes Fire

There are also student loans now which were non existant 30 years ago.
On the plus side it makes the lives of students who can't afford university normally a lot easier, on the downside people dont want to work THAT hard to pay off their loans these days either. 30 years ago we had to work to get the money in the first place, today we fill out a form and say 'You'll see your money back.. anywhere from 6 months to 6 years after I graduate. KTHX BAI.'

Life is so friggin' hard now. I agree.

In fact, now we get to graduate highschool at age 17 and enter right into either university or college and either FALL into a high paying job, or drop out and take something else in college//uni lather rinse repeat until satisfied on someone elses dollar as long as the moneys good.

Minimum wage now has also more than doubled//tripled since then to match the 'higher cost of living'?
*edit* In Ontario, Canada in 1965, minimum wage was $0.90/hr. Today, it is $8.00/hr. People worked a LOT harder back then for a lot less. Take a deep look inside and ask yourself if you're worth the money you're making now, compared to how hard your grandparents worked to make ends meet. Think about how fortunate you are to even be making minimum wage now. Just a little mental excercise.

Life really *IS* friggin' rough, wow, where's the exit?

30 Years ago nobody would've thought TWICE about pinching a handicapped persons' money. 30 years ago they werent even allowed to work in most places, if memory serves me correctly, they were even considering LAWS to prevent them from breeding. Today, those laws haven't been passed because it was inhumane, they are allowed to work along side everyone else as EQUALS, but along with that comes the equal mistreatment because some punk assed bratty white kid wants to 'reward' himself for finding his wallet when he loses it like anyone else does. I'm sure the handicapped person would do the same..? I highly doubt it. I also doubt he's one of those people who roughs up young children on halloween to get their candy.

This is life?

What it all boils down to has already been stated, restated, and explained over and over again in this thread. We aren't part of the solution, therefore we must be part of the problem.

Instead of bickering about who's a more humane person, why don't we shut off our computers and do some community service? I've been doing it most of my life, I havent seen *MY* reward yet, but I'm also not waiting. But, again, this just adds to the 'holier than thou' bullsh*t which isn't proving a damned thing.

Originally Posted by DreamRunner

Oh come on. I'm sure back then the dollar was worth a hell lot more back then, than you give credit for. So instead of basing statistics of back then to today when everything was so different. Lower population, different morals, why not look at things at todays perspective with todays problems?

Originally Posted by DreamRunner

Oh, but you mentality where everything was harder back then, when at uni it was less competitive and that a grad student could get you a really good job. A grad student today would be lucky to get 50k a year before tax. Thats what you call decent. Thats what you call average.
I know a girl who has a master in commerce, she works at a bank. The position? Bank Teller.

Originally Posted by DreamRunner

But "high" paying job as you leave school? Hah! People who get out of school and go into jobs are lucky to get around 30k per year before tax. But the point of that post was the expand on the fact that students that are in uni have different problems than back 30 years old.